burnmythoughts: (Irrritated)
Jean Grey ([personal profile] burnmythoughts) wrote2012-08-09 08:49 am

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[Private to the Admiral]

[Jean's gaze is carefully even, her voice steady and strong. She's clearly been practising.]

Admiral? I'd like to ask a few questions.

First, I'd like to know more about the system here. Are you accountable to anyone else? Is there any process in place to prevent or correct possible errors?

Second, is there any way for inmates to appeal their term here?

Third - I realise I'm not Daro'Xen's Warden, but she has no one else to speak for her. I'd like to know why she's been taken as an Inmate.

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I'd like to know everyone's position on Inmates having their abilities suppressed.

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[A bit later on, here is a distinctly irritated Jean, holding a gingerbread Barge.]

I bet the Admiral thinks he's cute, doesn't he.
surfaceshine: (Smirking Smile)

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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2012-08-09 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
That'd be outright favoritism, Jean. He only likes to do that once everyone's on board.
surfaceshine: (DNW)

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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2012-08-09 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that I'm defending the douchewad or anything? But it's pretty much the only thing he CAN do without taking away every single choice ever, which is pretty much the point. As far as there is a point.

Look, I get what you're saying? But baseline humans do the mass murder thing, too, and some of 'em have advantages over civilian humans that would be considered as unfair as extra powers. Pretty soon you're down to "Why aren't mass murderers just in solitary confinement all the time?" instead of what you started with. And sometimes people who weren't assholes before, who would be under very specific circumstances, get those very specific circumstances and then we're all dead anyway.

Again, counterproductive.
Edited 2012-08-09 18:53 (UTC)
surfaceshine: (Bananas)

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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2012-08-09 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
No, that's an argument that it doesn't matter who you are or what abilities you have or don't have, anyone in the right situation can be a murdering asshat, so trying to decide that right out of the box is stupid. The brochure says that the people who come here as inmates have already done something like that, and if you're gonna be a judgmental jerk who expects people to make the right choices or whatever, the most effective way is to be a blanket judgmental jerk.

Besides, get a warden, don't be a jerk, and you get it all back anyway.
surfaceshine: (Ya rly)

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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2012-08-09 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
No, by your argument they get to earn a part of themselves back for being themselves.

I didn't say it was fair, and it wasn't my idea, so you can stop giving me the snake eyes.
wedonot: (I'm confused. Can I go back to reading?)

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[personal profile] wedonot 2012-08-09 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Just because it wasn't your idea doesn't mean your argument isn't flawed. What, exactly, is the benefit of taking away something like that from an inmate who didn't abuse their gifts when they were alive? Because from what I've seen, those who have control and don't use their abilities to harm others just feel further victimized by the wardens and the Admiral when they first arrive without their abilities, which makes them less receptive to changing the behavior they were brought here to correct. It seems a bit counterproductive.
surfaceshine: (Dean Glance)

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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2012-08-09 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[Oh ho, Charles, Dean sees what you did there. And suddenly feels like maybe he's going to have a headache by the end of this conversation, because this is not his forte. Sam why are you not here.]

What's the point of anything around here? Because it's amusing for the asshole pulling all the strings. It's not helpful. It's not fair. It's not even necessarily right, it just is what it is.
wedonot: (And I know this sounds crazy.)

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[personal profile] wedonot 2012-08-09 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
And we're allowed to be upset about it.
surfaceshine: (I Doubt That)

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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2012-08-09 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Who said you weren't?
wedonot: (I can't believe you said that.)

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[personal profile] wedonot 2012-08-09 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The general consensus seems to be that we're the ill informed ones for saying the policy's absurd.
surfaceshine: (DNW)

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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2012-08-09 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't see anything like a consensus in anything I've said, general or otherwise.
wedonot: (Eyebrow.)

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[personal profile] wedonot 2012-08-09 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Then perhaps you should pick your words a little more carefully, next time.
surfaceshine: (What? No)

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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2012-08-09 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
[...riiiiiiiiiiiight.]

Yessir. [Yeah that wasn't serious at all.]